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Old 04-20-2010, 08:56 PM
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i found a motor that i used in a science project from two years ago \/


and since i didn't know that xmods existed i had no idea what it's proper use was
the problem is that it's only a motor and nothing else except for two connections (which are circled)


how should the power be hooked up to it?
should i use regular wires such as this \/ or something else?


is it okay to use a metal gear next to a plastic one? \/
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:01 PM
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dont use that wire, find some 18 guage stranded wire

and stay away from metal to plastic areas that are high pressure areas, your more likely to break/strip something

and the 2 connection spots are what all motors this size have, most of the time you just cant see it under the soldier
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does radio shack have this wire?
how do i change that metal gear?
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:21 PM
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Wrong section bud, moved it for you.
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does radio shack have this wire?
nope, not unless your very luckey

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how do i change that metal gear?
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:59 PM
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I don't think I fully understand.

I use metal on plastic all the time in race ready Mini-Z AWDs. The gen.1 motors are designed with metal on plastic. I've raced dozens of events and the plastic gears still look great. I'm not understanding the problem with that, plus, its relatively low risk, at worst, you have to replace a plastic gear? I say go for it if the gears mesh well unless someone else has some clarification why not to.

I have seen bad results from metal on metal gearing though in applications like this.
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does radio shack have this wire?
how do i change that metal gear?
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I don't think I fully understand.

I use metal on plastic all the time in race ready Mini-Z AWDs. The gen.1 motors are designed with metal on plastic. I've raced dozens of events and the plastic gears still look great. I'm not understanding the problem with that, plus, its relatively low risk, at worst, you have to replace a plastic gear? I say go for it if the gears mesh well unless someone else has some clarification why not to.

I have seen bad results from metal on metal gearing though in applications like this.
maybe its just me, we had to replace the starter on our lawn mower, the flywheel had plastic teeth and the new starter had metal, 2 months later we were ordering a new flywheel with metal teeth.

bu it should be fine, but if it binds i wouldnt expect the spur gear to last too long
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I don't think I fully understand.

I use metal on plastic all the time in race ready Mini-Z AWDs. The gen.1 motors are designed with metal on plastic. I've raced dozens of events and the plastic gears still look great. I'm not understanding the problem with that, plus, its relatively low risk, at worst, you have to replace a plastic gear? I say go for it if the gears mesh well unless someone else has some clarification why not to.

I have seen bad results from metal on metal gearing though in applications like this.
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I use a metal pinion in my rc18, and the spur is plastic... only way ive seen the spur go is if it was binding

and if uve seen the rc18 vids.. its a pretty strong demon with some insane torque, and if i havnt killed the spur by now.. then either thats one strong plastic or metal to plastic is safe.. lol
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bu it should be fine, but if it binds i wouldnt expect the spur gear to last too long
Soooo, dont do it but it should be fine??? Pick a side of the fence and stick to it. Nearly every RC car I own, from the tiny stuff up to my !/5th scale monsters use a metal pinion and plastic spur gear. If the mesh is correct (as stated above), you will be fine.
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so all i really need to worry about is to get wires to connect to the motor
right?
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They do have 18awg stranded wire at Radioshack...I've got some sitting on my workbench right now. Metal pinions on plastic spur gears are fine...that way, if anything gets eaten up, it'll be the spur and that's easy to replace. They design them that way because if there was a problem and you had a pinion and spur of the same material, they'd both get damaged instead of just one of them. I use titanium spurs against aluminum pinion on my Mini-T's.
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maybe its just me, we had to replace the starter on our lawn mower, the flywheel had plastic teeth and the new starter had metal, 2 months later we were ordering a new flywheel with metal teeth.

bu it should be fine, but if it binds i wouldnt expect the spur gear to last too long
a little off topic but assuming its a briggs and stratton engine

wrong starter then, the only metal geared starters were designed to be used on the steel ring geared flywheels. the old plastice ring gears were a bad design to start with but what replaced them was an aluminum ring gear, but still had the palstic starter gear.
you try using a metal gear on the aluminum ring gears it would bind because the pitch is just a little different. the metal gear on the flywheel would eat away at the plastic gear.
and only reason the starter gears are made of a softer material than the ring gears is because its cheaper to replace a 5-6 dollar plastic starter gear over a 45-50 dollar ring gear.
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so all i really need to worry about is to get wires to connect to the motor
right?
You need to worry about that and gear mesh.

If you want to see what the motor will do just desolder the wires from another motor and put them on the motor you found for now.
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