rewound motors

[XMDrifter]

i'm trying to gauge interest in handwound motor armatures.
i've been making them lately, and use them in both my truck and my car. and i have 8 blanks left.
i'll try to price them at around 8-9 bucks
anyways, what should i do?
make them as a made to order only, or also have team XMD motors made also?

and should i offer just the armature or a RTI motor?
i can get motor cans, but i can't get any standard style cans.
all i can get is those EGR style vented cans, and they ain't cheap

anyways, suggestions should be helpful because this could negatively impact RedSXmodder's sales. and i don't want to make competition for him, but if i sell at identical prices, then he'd get all the sales because he is better known and has already been proven again and again that his work is good and reliable.

one last question: should i even be into the motor selling thing?

[zippo855]

the thing about trying to be competition with red is, are your arms pattern wound? i don't own one but i have seen his work, as most have. they are top notch and yeah he is well known. if you have the skills to make them as good as he can, go for it.
my 2 cents

[RedSXmodder]

Originally Posted by XMDrifter

i'm trying to gauge interest in handwound motor armatures.
i've been making them lately, and use them in both my truck and my car. and i have 8 blanks left.
i'll try to price them at around 8-9 bucks
anyways, what should i do?
make them as a made to order only, or also have team XMD motors made also?

and should i offer just the armature or a RTI motor?
i can get motor cans, but i can't get any standard style cans.
all i can get is those EGR style vented cans, and they ain't cheap

anyways, suggestions should be helpful because this could negatively impact RedSXmodder's sales. and i don't want to make competition for him, but if i sell at identical prices, then he'd get all the sales because he is better known and has already been proven again and again that his work is good and reliable.

one last question: should i even be into the motor selling thing?

Motor winding is a skill thats for sure. It can be learned though, so you have to bring something to the table that the competition doesn't have, or at least be able to match the competition. For example, and not to pick on you or anything but: Do you take the time out to balance your armatures? Do you test to see if the motor runs smoothly? Do you pattern wind on the armatures that can be? This is all stuff customers look for in there builds.

Don't be discouraged though. If you feel dwarfed by me, how do you think I feel about Top Secret Motors, Flashsp-2's motor winding biz? He dwarfs me.

One thing that you WILL find though is that alot of the xmodding community isn't willing to pay big bucks for this stuff. You will notice that the profit margin in this game is very slim becuase of material costs

When it comes to motor sales you have to incorporate all sorts of things. There are guarantees, shipping, schedules, advertising, all sorts of stuff. Just remember to have fun. Thats all I'm in it for is fun. I'm not out to make huge profits. Its just a side job, and its great to see happy customers!

Later,
RedSXmodder

[2wdpancar]

All of that is true.
It's really the effort you put into your motors....I didn't have the time to do a lot so I dropped selling motors, but still making and selling battery packs upon request, with fet stacks.
Takes time... lots of time, I never got around to really balancing my arms and all, but I do now take the time for break in and such.
Your prices would have to be a lot lower if not pattern wound to compete with RED's work.(from my view at least)

[XMDrifter]

well i can patternwind. just not as fast as he can. non patternwound i can easily do in a few minutes
idk really how to balance armatures...isn't it kind of like truing and balancing a wheel?
i can test and break in the motors btw

but anyways, i could possibly offer arms for 4-7 bucks *shipped* and complete RTR motors for 15-18 bucks *shipped*
i'd have very limited supply, but i enjoy putting effort into difficult things like this

[RedSXmodder]

Originally Posted by XMDrifter

well i can patternwind. just not as fast as he can. non patternwound i can easily do in a few minutes
idk really how to balance armatures...isn't it kind of like truing and balancing a wheel?
i can test and break in the motors btw

but anyways, i could possibly offer arms for 4-7 bucks *shipped* and complete RTR motors for 15-18 bucks *shipped*
i'd have very limited supply, but i enjoy putting effort into difficult things like this

Balancing is very much like trueing a wheel. you let the armature spin, and if it is not smooth, you find the lopsided side (it takes a bit before you find the perfect balance) and put a dab of hot wax, or some other material on to balance it out.

For the most part it seems like you know wat your doing. I guess all I have to say is go for it and see what type of response you get...

Later,
RedSXmodder

[XMDrifter]

the thing is, i don't have a truing or balancing thing.
all i can do is polish the comm
and a 42t that i put work into to run in my own car has to get its comm resurfaced because it's so worn. if i can't do that, then i'll have to throw it away.

anyways, thanks for the encouraging advice.

i heard balancing and truing aren't the same thing.
isn't balancing something you do to make sure that there the same amount of mass all around the axis, so that when you turn it into any position it'l stay there(if left free to spin)? isn't truing about making sure the radii around the axis of movement is identical(meaning it's perfectly round and the center is exactly at the point of rotation)?

[RedSXmodder]

Truing mainly deals with the commutator. There are lathes that you can buy that true the commutator. But you have the main idea correct. There aren't any special tools involved in it though either. I simply use two razor blades and a level

Later,
RedSXmodder

[XMDrifter]

i'd take a mounted dremel and a clamp with a razor blade. then polishing would be with 600 grit to the dremel-mounted arm

anyway, i'll just try it out

[RedSXmodder]

600 grit is wayyyyy to low. You'll need some 1000 girt sandpaper or more if you don't want to sand through the copper layer.

[XMDrifter]

well, i only touch it lightly with the dremel spinning fast and it polishes shiny as new glass. and i don't put it on long: 3 seconds is enough to get a good shine from a decent comm

here's some pics. sorry that they're blurry