Upgrading wires...

[imstock]

Having searched for the last 15 minutes, all I have found is someone trying to sell a wire kit telling everyone it wouldn't increase performance but they'd never need to resolder again. Obviously that doesn't make sense, so I am asking...

Everyone and there brother here upgrades to thicker multi-strand wires, but is there a increase in performance or is it a bandwagon thing?

I don't want to rip into my car unless there's potential for an increase in speed, throttle response, etc...

Any reply is welcome...

Thanks!

[suicide_star]

no, it doesn't...people do it because it's an incredibly cheap mod, and unless you're running a high current motor and liths, i don't see a point. soldering the motor to the board isn't a horrible idea, but again...it won't make it go faster, you won't notice a difference.

[merc3des]

Yea it makes a difference with lithium. Easier response because the current flows nicely. I recommend it with lithium and any bigger 2x2+ motors.

[amorton94]

i was also wondering this, i guess ill try it once i get some liths and a custom motor and some stacked fets.

[xmodsnut]

Originally Posted by suicide_star

no, it doesn't...people do it because it's an incredibly cheap mod, and unless you're running a high current motor and liths, i don't see a point. soldering the motor to the board isn't a horrible idea, but again...it won't make it go faster, you won't notice a difference.

totally agree here. the heavier the guage the more current it can handle before it overheats and shorts out. think of it like a highway more lanes make it faster and safer.

[WhiteMKIV]

I did it to one of my gen 1's. not the THICK *** wired one, but one with a lil bit bigger guage then stock. To me it made a big diff in response and acceleration. So if you know how to solder good, i would say go for it just dont upgrade to hudge wire bc it will lose power instead of gaining

[imstock]

Well, it's 18ga multi strand wire.

I will probably do it whenever I get around to doing liths.

[meme405]

Suicide is right on here, but i have something to add.

Some people seem to replace some of the wires but not all of them. Now let me make this entirely clear. You have to replace all of the wires with the higher gauge replacing half of the wires in a series will just create a large "bottle neck" where they meet the smaller wires.

If you would imagine a line up of people, and lets say they were washing dishes. One person would be washing the dishes, 2 people would be rinsing the dishes, 2 people would be drying them, and 2 people would be putting them away.

Now if you look at the amount of work each person does obviously the dish washer is going to determine the amount of work the other people can do. We call this the "rate determining step" because no matter how many more people you add to the other steps the dishes wont get done any faster.

Therefore the dishwasher is the bottleneck.

Same thing occurs if you dont replace all the wires and only replace half of them...

Therefore its kind of like adding 10000 people to rinse, dry and put away dishes but only have one person washing them...

[XMDrifter]

so same if you put 20 washer people, 5 rinsers and 5 dryers, then 20 people to put away the dishes
the EP is the bottleneck(the dryers and the rinsers)

[imstock]

Yeah, gonna run 18G on the hotside and the motor side.

[meme405]

Originally Posted by XMDrifter

so same if you put 20 washer people, 5 rinsers and 5 dryers, then 20 people to put away the dishes
the EP is the bottleneck(the dryers and the rinsers)

Very true, but if you add lith's a 2by6 stack and hot motor with stock wires on. Then your your wires are the bottleneck which as i stated if you only replaced half of do not help your cause.

We are both right...

[xmodsnut]

Originally Posted by meme405

If you would imagine a line up of people, and lets say they were washing dishes. One person would be washing the dishes, 2 people would be rinsing the dishes, 2 people would be drying them, and 2 people would be putting them away.

Now if you look at the amount of work each person does obviously the dish washer is going to determine the amount of work the other people can do. We call this the "rate determining step" because no matter how many more people you add to the other steps the dishes wont get done any faster.

Therefore the dishwasher is the bottleneck.

Therefore its kind of like adding 10000 people to rinse, dry and put away dishes but only have one person washing them...

dude if the dishwasher was me they would need 4 people at the other end just to keep up with me. dam this washing machine needs speed control I got tons to send through this thing and its waiting on the dam machine to go faster

[urownstupidity]

not sure if this helps but im a car audio installer so wire is my deal man lol

anyway for car audio we found that if you use very very find wire with very fine strands but the more srand sthe better so if your going to rewire stuff i wouldnt use wire that is to thick cuz as we all know eclectricity take sthe path of least resistancemore wires with finer strands= more power but im if the motor or fets couldnt handle it ..then its pointless i guess lol

[imstock]

Most people here use 18ga speaker wire, which doesn't have the finest of individual strands, but it caries the juice well.

[urownstupidity]

true lol i mean it wouldnt be my choice but if it works then why not lol

[meme405]

As long as your upgrading it doesnt really make a difference, because as i stated that balance point is only a little bit off what we have stock.

It doesnt make a difference if you put 18guage wire or a 12 guage wire, your going to get the same amount of boost.

[wadethejuggalo]

i soldered my motor wires to my hummer and it didnt make one difference in the world ( except i had to loose the board cover)

[surferboy]

I just used 18 gauge speaker wire b/c my battery wires on gen1 broke from the board and holder. Its a lot stronger solder joint.

[merc3des]

It also depends on what the wire is made of. Tin/copper etc.