XXX: Modders Convention

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Originally Posted by reaper

nice one dude

id go with the 120rpm ,but its totally up to you

is say that rpm because the motor i had ran at 130 and was a good speed for a crawler

Right, I think someone said that was a good # for rpm... Just before I order one I want to make sure that everyone who has some knowledge on the setup agrees to use the 120 or if they think the 320 or 440 would be even better or just to much. So you say stick with 120rpm

[reaper]

im sure all would work well

ima stick with 120 rpm but if your unsure go for the middle ground

[dreamingISdrifting]

Originally Posted by TripleXmodder(akaXXX)

Right, I think someone said that was a good # for rpm... Just before I order one I want to make sure that everyone who has some knowledge on the setup agrees to use the 120 or if they think the 320 or 440 would be even better or just to much. So you say stick with 120rpm

Go with 320 rpm, 120 sounds like a good rpm to start with, but you are forgetting the extra reduction counted in the extra gearing of the gear-train on the chassis, you end up with about 20rpm at the wheels which is incredibly slow. Or in other words .333333 rotations per second, and with a wheel about 2 inches in diameter you will be going 40 inches every minute, it may seem ideal for some applications but for most will require some extra wheel speed if your wheel gets caught.

[reaper]

yes but i know (because iv tested it on a motor dyno) that a gen1 mike mizi crawler motor runs 130 rpm @ 4.8v

so any reduction on the chassis is irrelevant when matching a motor to the originals

[dreamingISdrifting]

ok then.... Btw where did you get your motor dyno? I wasn't able to find any for 130 motors

[reaper]

i have 2 both have to be adapted for use with 130 cans

the motor master is good for RPM and amp draw
just needs a xmod motor housing fastening to the side


the fantom is a serious bit of kit this tell amps rpm timming and torque
is full PC controlled
had to turn an adapter for the fly wheel and fab a converter for the cradle


sorry for the off topic

[dreamingISdrifting]

So when one of you (cuz i know like 5 people are all working on it) get the motor done what would the running price be?

[cycygrace]

yeah id check the price i may buy one of one of u

[XMDrifter]

maybe use the "wrong shaft size" gear-reduced motors with customized output gears/bushing to accept the significant shaft size change? that would mean sanding off the output gear on the small motor so that it can fit into a drilled out xmod gear, then CA the gears together. after that, find a bushing that fits the smaller shaft, drill out the stock xmod bushing, and ca the two bushings together?
that might net you a gen-2 style crawler motor

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Originally Posted by dreamingISdrifting

So when one of you (cuz i know like 5 people are all working on it) get the motor done what would the running price be?

Originally Posted by cycygrace

yeah id check the price i may buy one of one of u

Well, Im gonna make 2. They will both be the GEN2 style, with the micro gearbox installed in the 130 motor can. So super simple drop in, just like you have seen in Zippos photos. 1 will be the 120rpm box and the other will be the 320rpm box..... then I test them and see which one functions the best. After that, if all is good Ill post a Turorial on how to make it, and include links for all the materials used. I also will make them for anyone who would ratheer I did it for them.. The motor gearbox is $20.00 alone (15.95 + shipping to get 1) then the 130 motor can, and a pinion...18g superflex.. I would guess about $30-$35 ... So you could order all the stuff and make one or I would do it for somwhere in that range, unless I find the materials for less, then the price obviously would go down.

[cycygrace]

im sorry im not good with the generation setup but i would buy one as long as it fits in the 65 mustang street without any serious modding but 35$ for everything? that sounds good

[BulletsRain]

Originally Posted by cycygrace

im sorry im not good with the generation setup but i would buy one as long as it fits in the 65 mustang street without any serious modding but 35$ for everything? that sounds good

A crawler motor for your Mustang? Ok... gonna be going awful slow.

[cycygrace]

im actually working on jacking up the body and modding it to be a crawler i know its weird but i wanted to see how it turned out for fun and everything i can undo just something to try cause of curiosty i guess
oh and i have 2 mustangs i would never do it to the one i have in my profile pic that one is just how i want it

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Originally Posted by BulletsRain

A crawler motor for your Mustang? Ok... gonna be going awful slow.

LMAO...yeah, that's funny.


This should be in a truck, that whats to crawl over rocks and terrain.

[BulletsRain]

Originally Posted by cycygrace

im actually working on jacking up the body and modding it to be a crawler i know its weird but i wanted to see how it turned out for fun and everything i can undo just something to try cause of curiosty i guess
oh and i have 2 mustangs i would never do it to the one i have in my profile pic that one is just how i want it

IF you want a crawler it would be easier to get a truck chassis and then mount the body to that. Modding a car body into a crawler will be hard, since its suspension is harder, and its control arms are meant to be low to the ground. Just a suggestion to you.

[cycygrace]

yeah thanks u guys never thought of the control arms im gonna abort the mission and rewind what i did and buy the chassis what chassis should i buy?
oh and xxx i may still be interested in buying the whole setup lets see how it actually ends up and then well talk on buying

[dontspamme]

Originally Posted by cycygrace

yeah thanks u guys never thought of the control arms im gonna abort the mission and rewind what i did and buy the chassis what chassis should i buy?

A truck chassis... ? Short or long, doesn't matter.

[cycygrace]

long preferrably

[dontspamme]

Originally Posted by cycygrace

long preferrably

Well, you answered your own question without the need for me answer it earlier. What do you want me to do with this ? Can't do much really, come on man, use your brain.

[dreamingISdrifting]

where do you even get a truck chassis these days thats not ff ebay or costs $200+ ...sorry for the off topic but i just wanna know....