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Old 10-20-2007, 10:47 PM
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well if you putting in NOS and Turbo well yea you need low compression rings. You can't just slap in a turbo on a n/a engine you'll atleast blow the heads what a waste, low compression prevents you from blowing your engine. Only time they use high compression rings are N/A engines no turbo. In turbo they come stock with low compression rings.
LOL, compression rings.... And also I need to buy some new push rods for my RX8 too huh?



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Please explain low compression rings to me as rings have nothing to do with the compression ratio of an engine. Compression ratio is determined by the volume of the head and the profile of the piston.
Low compression ring is better free flowing for a turbo engine to prevent pressure build up when engine is under boost. For an example a 1JZ 2.5L piston rings on a 2JZ 3.0L piston from a supra engine.
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-Ah, but I truely dont see how the ECU cant be tuned... Unless GM has done something to it in recent years.

-I tune it the old fashion way, CARBURATION, haha..

-Bleh, Saturn L-series. Been there, done that. Was glad when it left.

-The SS Cobalt used the Supercharged version though. But also ariel, makers of the Atom use that motor in its US verion, as opposed to Honda's VTEC motor. Same HP ratings at the 3 offered versions, but with more torque from the Ecotech.
Dude the saturn l searies are baddass, i got a buddy down here that has a turbo'd b18 honda motor in his, and he run high 11's with it. You can beat the living **** outta the motor in the stock l's Its nots my favorite car in the world but i would rather have that then a eclipse...... those DSM motors suck But anyone who owns a satty can tell you that they are fun to drive

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dude...i think i just had an orgasm watching that jimmy...

that thing looked like a typhoon body?
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Low compression ring is better free flowing for a turbo engine to prevent pressure build up when engine is under boost. For an example a 1JZ 2.5L piston rings on a 2JZ 3.0L piston from a supra engine.
The only way a ring could lower compression is to allow blow by which is very undesirable in ANY engine. Do you even know how piston rings work?
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Low compression ring is better free flowing for a turbo engine to prevent pressure build up when engine is under boost. For an example a 1JZ 2.5L piston rings on a 2JZ 3.0L piston from a supra engine
Uh ok, you dont want any car loosing compression through the piston rings..

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that thing looked like a typhoon body?
Haha, yes, it was a Typhoon, converted 2wd though


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Dude the saturn l searies are baddass, i got a buddy down here that has a turbo'd b18 honda motor in his, and he run high 11's with it. You can beat the living **** outta the motor in the stock l's Its nots my favorite car in the world but i would rather have that then a eclipse...... those DSM motors suck But anyone who owns a satty can tell you that they are fun to drive

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Its not really much saturn power left when you slap in a honda motor to power it. But, why put a low torque, small displacement I4 when the larger, more torque-ish DOHC V6 has enough problems motivating the car. Toss the 5.3V8 setup from the Impalla SS

We owned a Saturd L200. Unreliable, cheap, handled and road like crap as well. Its only saving grace, was that it was a safe car:

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Just a decent point a to point b car, not what I would call fun to drive though..
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Uh ok, you dont want any car loosing compression through the piston rings..


Haha, yes, it was a Typhoon, converted 2wd though




Its not really much saturn power left when you slap in a honda motor to power it. But, why put a low torque, small displacement I4 when the larger, more torque-ish DOHC V6 has enough problems motivating the car. Toss the 5.3V8 setup from the Impalla SS

We owned a Saturd L200. Unreliable, cheap, handled and road like crap as well. Its only saving grace, was that it was a safe car:

Details: http://www.xmodworld.com/modules.php...wtopic&t=24965

Just a decent point a to point b car, not what I would call fun to drive though..
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Uh ok, you dont want any car loosing compression through the piston rings..


Haha, yes, it was a Typhoon, converted 2wd though




Its not really much saturn power left when you slap in a honda motor to power it. But, why put a low torque, small displacement I4 when the larger, more torque-ish DOHC V6 has enough problems motivating the car. Toss the 5.3V8 setup from the Impalla SS

We owned a Saturd L200. Unreliable, cheap, handled and road like crap as well. Its only saving grace, was that it was a safe car:

Details: http://www.xmodworld.com/modules.php...wtopic&t=24965

Just a decent point a to point b car, not what I would call fun to drive though..


LMAO SATURD Mine isnt a v6 but mine is reliable, ive herd a couple of things about the L200's. The only thing i dont like about mine is the handleing, other than that is i like the pick up... Its been known to beat a few tuners..... and a stang
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to clear things up...i didnt read that well into the posts to see if anybody said it yet...but you dont use piston RINGS to try to achieve higher or lower compression...the difference is in the piston itself lmfao...the dome height (from what i understand) is how you control your compression (if you even use a domed piston b/c there are a few diff kinds out there) ...the only way you could get "lower compression" from rings is if your freakin rings went bad...that would definitely lower your compression...
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Heres a 3.4L supra owning a TT viper
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Heres the 3.4L supra dynoing at 1133 HP
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man xmw is weird, sometime i try to go on it says im banned and then other times it works
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to clear things up...i didnt read that well into the posts to see if anybody said it yet...but you dont use piston RINGS to try to achieve higher or lower compression...the difference is in the piston itself lmfao...the dome height (from what i understand) is how you control your compression (if you even use a domed piston b/c there are a few diff kinds out there) ...the only way you could get "lower compression" from rings is if your freakin rings went bad...that would definitely lower your compression...
if you think that way go to your local tuninng shop and find out and tell us smart one!!!
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Theres your 7 sec car driving around on the streets...Watch from 30 seconds to 35 seconds, HE IS SPINNING THE WHEELS IN 3RD GEAR i would sell my soul to satin for that car
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if you think that way go to your local tuninng shop and find out and tell us smart one!!!

not too many tuninng or tunning shops around here
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if you think that way go to your local tuninng shop and find out and tell us smart one!!!
First off, your not impressing anyone with your bogus engine knowledge (or lack thereof). Buy a book or use the internet to learn how the internal combustion engine works. Rings (unless worn out) can IN NO WAY change your compression ratio.
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First off, your not impressing anyone with your bogus engine knowledge (or lack thereof). Buy a book or use the internet to learn how the internal combustion engine works. Rings (unless worn out) can IN NO WAY change your compression ratio.

amen...why would you want to lose compression to your crankcase?
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LMAO SATURD Mine isnt a v6 but mine is reliable, ive herd a couple of things about the L200's. The only thing i dont like about mine is the handleing, other than that is i like the pick up... Its been known to beat a few tuners..... and a stang
The DOHC V6 was a rev happy motor, moved the car at an ok pace, but it was quite slower than our 98 Jimmy. It just sounded like it was going fast when you mashed its (poopy throttle by wire) gas.



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if you think that way go to your local tuninng shop and find out and tell us smart one!!!
All righty then.

-Jimmythekid is a ASE certified mechanic, so when he gets on to prove you wrong listen.
-I am a car enthusiest, my dad has been an ASE mechanic for some 20 years, and I grew up in the garage and am building my own '69 C10 as well.
-ZX9RBART Im sure is a solid enthusiast too.
-Suicidestar, though new, has proven to know pretty well too

We all have a **** solid knowledge of cars. And we are telling you, piston rings dont allow for lower compression. Infact, thats the exact opposite of what you want.
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First off, your not impressing anyone with your bogus engine knowledge (or lack thereof). Buy a book or use the internet to learn how the internal combustion engine works. Rings (unless worn out) can IN NO WAY change your compression ratio.
you dont change compression ratio you retard!!!!! low comp rings arent WARN DOWN TO BLOW BLUE CLOWDS OF SMOKE THEY HELP THE ENGINE TO HAVE A BETTER FREE FLOW!!!!
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gj on calling one of the coolest mods on here a retard

this isnt even worth my time, before you come in here with ur bs story about your 800 hp supra and whatnot, please learn how an engine works so you can at least kind of fool people...please, feel free to link up some "low compression piston rings" from anywhere on the internet, i'm interested. please, shut me up.

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texan yea i use a laptop sometimes, and a psp, and a wii... but i dont know y i could have gotten banned?
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