new competition

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Originally Posted by SkysTheLimit

The point of the price limit and time limit especially of the experts competition is to press your creativity and to make good use of what you have. If there were no price limit, it wouldn't be so fair as some people would just pour GPM and electronic turbos into their cars for the chassis whereas people with more experience will create custom chassis with equal "bling" appeal but won't get the credit when compared with GPM.

No surprises I'm all in for doing this comp, just did my first one and it was great. Time is a bit stressful but just make sure you plan everything out and know you'll have enough time before you enter one.

Let's have some fun!

Think about what you like to see when you look through build threads. Price limit doesn't press your creativity... I don't wanna go to the forum to see Xmods with tin foil on them. I go here to see all the wonderful builds and Price is irrelivent.

The new COTM idea is great...... My suggestion is:

No theme .. you will attract more entries due to obvious reasons.
Ditch the price limit .. you will attract more entries for obvious reasons.

Most people on here have a special ability and mod differently. for example my main thing is CF. The Carbon fiber alone would be my build $ limit. I wouldn't be able to do what I like to do for comps. There are many others that would fall under this same category and you would lose some great builds.

Think about it.

eitherway great idea with the classes.

[zippo855]

Originally Posted by Kaze

gracias for your answers, All Understood, just trying to exploit/clarify the inbetweens.

Thanks for the answers again

your welcome

Originally Posted by TripleXmodder(akaXXX)

Think about what you like to see when you look through build threads. Price limit doesn't press your creativity... I don't wanna go to the forum to see Xmods with tin foil on them. I go here to see all the wonderful builds and Price is irrelivent.

The new COTM idea is great...... My suggestion is:

No theme .. you will attract more entries due to obvious reasons.
Ditch the price limit .. you will attract more entries for obvious reasons.

Most people on here have a special ability and mod differently. for example my main thing is CF. The Carbon fiber alone would be my build $ limit. I wouldn't be able to do what I like to do for comps. There are many others that would fall under this same category and you would lose some great builds.

Think about it.

eitherway great idea with the classes.

the price limit is staying. this is a seperate comp than the cotm. the cotm is still going to go on like it is with no price limits. this is a seperate buildoff. and i see no problem with your cf chassis paired with a nice model conversion, and still be under the 80 build price. since the advanced class is the only thing that you can have a cf chassis any way.

heres the last 5 builds from t he comp i have on xmf
march http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7434
feb http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7262
jan http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7016
dec http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6683
and the current comp
http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7439

as you can see these are far from tin foil cars.
and there its 20 novice, 40 intermediate and expert. so i took the comp here 1 step farther and allow 80 in the top class for a limit.
not trying to sound harsh in any way, but if you cant come up with a decent build for 20, 40, 80 then stick with cotm comps. you have very nice builds xxx, and i dont see any reason you cant come up with something awesome for 80 bucks.

[TripleXmodder(akaXXX)]

Originally Posted by zippo855

your welcome


the price limit is staying. this is a seperate comp than the cotm. the cotm is still going to go on like it is with no price limits. this is a seperate buildoff. and i see no problem with your cf chassis paired with a nice model conversion, and still be under the 80 build price. since the advanced class is the only thing that you can have a cf chassis any way.

heres the last 5 builds from t he comp i have on xmf
march http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7434
feb http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7262
jan http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7016
dec http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6683
and the current comp
http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7439

as you can see these are far from tin foil cars.
and there its 20 novice, 40 intermediate and expert. so i took the comp here 1 step farther and allow 80 in the top class for a limit.
not trying to sound harsh in any way, but if you cant come up with a decent build for 20, 40, 80 then stick with cotm comps. you have very nice builds xxx, and i dont see any reason you cant come up with something awesome for 80 bucks.

All good, I take no offense and don't feel your being harsh in anyway. .... I am sure I could put a good build together for that price, I just wouldn't want a limit on it because I wanna see amazing builds wether it's under or over a certian $$ limit. But if this is aside from the COTM then I think that is cool. PS-thanks for the props.

[fiberworkz]

Maybe there could be an all-out buildoff for the older members here, with no price limit and maybe like a 6 week time limit.

[sciontc333]

so if you already had a chassis built up ( hobby grade, alloy, ect... ) and you got more than $80 into it would you have to take parts off to make it under the price limit. just wondering, because for example my micro x isn't full alloy, and im not a rich kid just pouring money into the thing, but it has more than $80 worth of parts on it, that ive got togeather over about a year.

[zippo855]

Originally Posted by fiberworkz

Maybe there could be an all-out buildoff for the older members here, with no price limit and maybe like a 6 week time limit.

there was one set up a while back and in a month there was only 1 or 2 updates. but its something to think about.

Originally Posted by sciontc333

so if you already had a chassis built up ( hobby grade, alloy, ect... ) and you got more than $80 into it would you have to take parts off to make it under the price limit. just wondering, because for example my micro x isn't full alloy, and im not a rich kid just pouring money into the thing, but it has more than $80 worth of parts on it, that ive got togeather over about a year.

yep, anything other than rs upgrades count towards the build.

[fiberworkz]

Originally Posted by zippo855

there was one set up a while back and in a month there was only 1 or 2 updates. but its something to think about.

You could have a postcount restriction on the comp to make sure only people who will complete it take part.

[zippo855]

Originally Posted by fiberworkz

You could have a postcount restriction on the comp to make sure only people who will complete it take part.

nah, this way anyone can be in it. and those who dont finish wont be able to compete again for a few months, most likely, like i said, ill post up the rules once we have all the details worked out.

[fiberworkz]

Originally Posted by zippo855

nah, this way anyone can be in it. and those who dont finish wont be able to compete again for a few months, most likely, like i said, ill post up the rules once we have all the details worked out.

I was still talking about the no price limit buildoff.

[winner]

the price limits just keep it fair.... how would you feel if you were a born poor living in the ghetto trying to win a xmods contest againist a muti-millionare??

[suicide_star]

i think that if your entry has work done by another person, there should be nothing wrong with that. for example, if i build a nice chassis and want a paintjob to compliment it, what's the problem with getting help from a professional (like bondo, STL, or Lancerman). if you get a paintjob on your 1:1 car, does that mean that you shouldn't ever put it in a show? no...because by the time you bought the compressor, polishing compounds, airtools, and all that good junk, you could have paid to have it done professionally and saved a bunch of money. even if you get help with soldering on electronics or a custom motor wound, what's the big deal? ultimately, it's your car and nobody else's.

[zippo855]

i get what your saying, but with this being a buildoff competition, its to see what skills you have. not what someone else has. thats the main point behind this comp.
the cotm, i don't see any issues with entering someone else's paint, as long as you did the custom chassis to compliment it.

[suicide_star]

oh, gotcha zippo. i thought the builoff and COTM were the same thing. sorry for the confusion.

[zippo855]

nope, 2 seperate comps, the cotm will still be put on every month just as it has been. then there will be this comp which has the different classes and what not. so that everyone has an opportunity to enter a comp.

the main reasons i started this comp on xmf was
1. to show that you dont have to dump a ton of money into an xmod to get an swesome build.
2. when i first started in xmods i was intimidated by seeing some of the entries in to cotm comps. with the likes of bondo, xmodification, goodfellaz, just to name a few, i didnt know how i would ever compete. this comp gives people the opportunity to shine with people doing similar builds as them with the same restrictions.

[merc3des]

Originally Posted by zippo855

nope, 2 seperate comps, the cotm will still be put on every month just as it has been. then there will be this comp which has the different classes and what not. so that everyone has an opportunity to enter a comp.

the main reasons i started this comp on xmf was
1. to show that you dont have to dump a ton of money into an xmod to get an swesome build.
2. when i first started in xmods i was intimidated by seeing some of the entries in to cotm comps. with the likes of bondo, xmodification, goodfellaz, just to name a few, i didnt know how i would ever compete. this comp gives people the opportunity to shine with people doing similar builds as them with the same restrictions.

I really like how your thinking of our newer members I'm for the price limit as you've put it, and it makes it more competitive, finer tweaks etc.

I'm all for competition, I really love this.

Thanks Zippo, Donzii, and all the other mods

[trans_am_lover_79]

I understand the full rules will be posted at a later date, love the idea and would be interrested but...

on the stock class- shaving the bodies, adding putty, and painting would be just about all that is allowed? Also it was stated that rs parts would not count towards the build price, so body kits would not count as well? And finally, all builds must be a new start, meaning all previous work would have to be scrapped and new work would have to be preformed?

just a suggestion, i like how weekly updates were a must on xmf, you should have a rule that at least one before picture is required so we can see how much work was actually done.

[zippo855]

Originally Posted by merc3des

I really like how your thinking of our newer members I'm for the price limit as you've put it, and it makes it more competitive, finer tweaks etc.

I'm all for competition, I really love this.

Thanks Zippo, Donzii, and all the other mods

thanks

Originally Posted by trans_am_lover_79

I understand the full rules will be posted at a later date, love the idea and would be interrested but...

on the stock class- shaving the bodies, adding putty, and painting would be just about all that is allowed? Also it was stated that rs parts would not count towards the build price, so body kits would not count as well? And finally, all builds must be a new start, meaning all previous work would have to be scrapped and new work would have to be preformed?

just a suggestion, i like how weekly updates were a must on xmf, you should have a rule that at least one before picture is required so we can see how much work was actually done.

stock class, is basically just body mods, the body kits dont count towards the 20 bucks as it is an rs upgrade. so whatever you can do to a stock body for 20 bucks goes. and yes it has to be a pretty much clean body. or a repaint. but all work done to the body, shaving, filling, adding lips, and whatnot needs to have been done during the build only.

[zippo855]

alright we took a few things into consideration and have changed some things around.

stock class, as listed already,
modified class, as listed already. but changed price limit to 60 bucks.

change advanced class, to expert class.

the expert class will run 3 months a build. that way it still falls in the month that was going to be the advanced class. model body conversions a must, no price cap. panel of judges vote winner.



but even with the revisions i need more than 1 person interested to have this comp. where's the pms at?

[firebird999]

when you add the price of a model body, do you subtract that of an xmod body?

[zippo855]

seeings how the cost of an xmod body never gets factored into the total, no