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new competition
well this has been in the works, but with some of the recent suggestions, i think its time to post this up.
some of you have seen a similar comp before. but iwant your opinions on a few things. here's the basics of the comp 3 classes stock class, xmods cars, no electronics upgrades, no alloy, just xmod body mod. 20 dollar build limit. modified class. model body conversions, stock chassis, no alloy, no electronics swaps. 40 dollar build limit advanced class, anything goes, just cant be stock body with no modifications. 80 dollar price tag. and anything other than rs upgrades count towards the total, doesnt matter if you already had it or not. only for xmods chassis based cars. 3 week build 1 week vote 1 class a month. now for your thoughts. would you like a set theme? like one month muscle, one month t uner, 1 month supercar, etc. or do you want basically an open class? the number of participants will depend on interest. and i will be purring up a prize for each comp. please direct and questions or suggestions to me via pm, or here. i also need to know who all would be interested in participating. those interested shoot me a pm titled new comp, and let me know what class you want to be in. i will lay out the rules for it later. now get to commenting.
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I like the idea. Keep the price limits, but dump the themes. With three different competitions, there are already going to be fewer people entering, and by adding themes to the mix, you are losing even more people.
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if not for the the price limit it would be no different from a cotm comp. i have had a similar comp going on another forum for 6 months now, outstanding builds and this shows what you can really do on a build instead of throwing money into a car. and you get to show what you can do against others doing similar builds.
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Now... as for the classes... Quote:
Below are some positive points as well as questions that I wouldn't mind being answered. Stock Class: -This does give people like Aznkevin, myself and others who use putty to mod bodies without having to mod the chassis. -Would changing the stock rims count as a mod? Modified Class: -Basically for people who want to/like to mount Model Bodies. -Would modding a stock Xmod Shell, then Adding Components from a model kit to the shell count for this class, or does that go under "Stock Class"? -Due to the Stock Chassis limit, this means all you're allowed to do is extend the chassis? (Example: I buy a model kit, and decide to install stock Xmods components into the model kit's chassis etc. is this turned towards "Advanced Class"?) -Though not model kit, would mounting Mini-Z, iWaver, other R/C brand shells count? Advanced Class: -Self Explanatory, Price limit prohibits full GPM chassis. -RS Upgrades don't count to price limit, this is handy. -"Can't be a stock body without modifications" does this mean it can't be a stock shell period, or it can be a stock shell with chassis mods? (if No, see "suggestion" below) For All Classes: -Does price limit count towards objects that were purchased prior to thinking about the project, however, just so happens to be useful? -Do trades count towards the price limit? if so does the price of the object traded for count against the person? (Example: I trade a hood for mirrors, so does the price of the hood count against me) Suggestion: Could I propose an Intermediate Class, in which the price limit is still $40 just as Modified Class, however, Intermediate is more of a technical skill class, where Electronic Mods, as well as Mechanical (Chassis/Drivetrain) mods are allowed. Body Mods are accepted but not necessary (Stock Shells allowed) Example Mods would be: Nelly/Spider Install (though the price tag might kill the limit) 18Gage Wire upgrades Power Switch By-Pass DIY Lith-ion/poly Installs Tight-Turns Install (Gen 1) Drive shaft removal (Gen 1) Cantilever Suspension Removal (Gen 1: where you replace the rear suspension with the front suspension) etc. etc... It doesn't have to be like this 100%, but I'm sure you understand what I'm suggesting. *Phew, that took longer than I though, sorry if any of these were answered while I was typing it*
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I would have loved to do this in the past on xmf and now here. But i don't have a free chassis or money for another car.... Would the build be the same for xms and xmf?(like tuner on both site, muscle, etc.) you could enter the car in both comps (both sites). Not everybody on here is on xmf and vice versa.
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i like the idea of different classes....the price limit isn't too bad...you can get accessories from rs or somewhere else and have a good build....just whether or not there are a few participants or many that's the real question...
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the stock xmod chassis, stock body, and any rs upgradew doesnt get figured into the build cost. and i would hope since there is a higher member activity level i can get enough for each comp.....
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kaze, ill respond to yours when i get home. lol its going to take a lot of typing.
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Since we're on topic now, I don't like $ limit idea. If A can buy styrene for 1$ a sheet while B can buy it for 3$, then how would this make sense?
RS upgrades aren't part of the cost? Why not? If car can't have too much aftermarket, then it'll just be a visual project and I don't see why one would even need any upgrades. I'll suggest simple % of the chassis and body modifications besides paint per tier, if you even want to do several tiers each month. You guys (staff) will just drive yourselves nuts with this. Do something like: Stock class = 30% modification required, no non-Xm bodies or parts. Mod class = 50+% modification required and must use external parts and bodies of any sort. This way stock could equal a simple body kit mod of a Xm body or a wide kit + deco, and mod class will be something much more involved. How about paint is a must?
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The point of the price limit and time limit especially of the experts competition is to press your creativity and to make good use of what you have. If there were no price limit, it wouldn't be so fair as some people would just pour GPM and electronic turbos into their cars for the chassis whereas people with more experience will create custom chassis with equal "bling" appeal but won't get the credit when compared with GPM.
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The new COTM idea is great...... My suggestion is: No theme .. you will attract more entries due to obvious reasons. Ditch the price limit .. you will attract more entries for obvious reasons. Most people on here have a special ability and mod differently. for example my main thing is CF. The Carbon fiber alone would be my build $ limit. I wouldn't be able to do what I like to do for comps. There are many others that would fall under this same category and you would lose some great builds. Think about it. eitherway great idea with the classes.
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heres the last 5 builds from t he comp i have on xmf march http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7434 feb http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7262 jan http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7016 dec http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6683 and the current comp http://www.xmodsforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7439 as you can see these are far from tin foil cars. and there its 20 novice, 40 intermediate and expert. so i took the comp here 1 step farther and allow 80 in the top class for a limit. not trying to sound harsh in any way, but if you cant come up with a decent build for 20, 40, 80 then stick with cotm comps. you have very nice builds xxx, and i dont see any reason you cant come up with something awesome for 80 bucks.
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I truely like the price limit Idea the best. It prevents people from getting carried away and doing all this crazy stuff to something that might not even win... It forces the person to reprioritize what it is they need to do to create something simple and effective while being economically efficient.
Is it truely fair to let the guy that can drop $500 like nothing because he has money, in an Xmod for a competition, vs. someone that can barely afford the $7 spray can, and is doing his best without sand paper and such? People aren't going to vote for the guy that couldn't prepare and paint his body better just because there was no money, I see the limit a check system... Even in the Advanced class, do you really want a guy that saved up the $80 for the comp to go against the guy that, once again, can freely drop $$$$. The price cap is a good idea, levels things out.
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Zippo - I've seen how well this works on XMF and I think its a great idea to move it over to here... I'd like you to work with donziikid on regulating it so that it works smoothly... the problem with introducing new things on XMS is that some of our members tend to over analyze things and this really isn't a complex competition, the price limit is put on so that people use their own skills to build something unique.... I think this ties in nicely with merc3des thread about people only voting on the eye candy rides.... with a stock class $20 competition there isn't going to be all that much eye candy... just a shell and some paint but with $80 you can go way more extreme and make a one off CF chassis like he did....
See what the two of you can come up with and hopefully it will be something everyone can agree to bring some new and exciting fun to the site.... Cheers!
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your missing the whole point. its a build off. that means you build it. no previous work done on it. and 3 weeks later you have your build
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