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BART 05-10-2008 11:00 PM

Battery cap upgrade
 
Well I guess it's about time I post this. If you read my "truth about caps" in electronics you will know that I stated the only way for a cap to increase performance is for one to be hooked up directly to the batteries.

This mod is quite simple if you have decent soldering skills.

Simply buy a cap (the bigger the better) from rs (like 2 bucks) and solder the positive lead to the red battery connection at the board and the negative to the black battery connection at the board. The end result should look like this..
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...t/DSC00361.jpg
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...t/DSC00360.jpgWhat you will notice is an increase in acceleration off of the line and increased acceleration after coasting or braking. This will in NO WAY increase your top speed...

2wdpancar 05-10-2008 11:03 PM

ZX9BART,
Say if you used this, do you think heatshrinking the leads would be a good idea, as if they touched, won't the batteries short?

And with lithium, heatshrinking the leads would be a good idea, there are micro caps that were sold on Performance Xmods, and now JDR, just more BS(JDR's is NOS Tank):lol: .
On PX, Mike stated it would get damaged if the voltage applied was over 5.5V, now how do you come to this conclusion, is it stated on the packaging of the capacitor?

BART 05-10-2008 11:10 PM

I didnt heatshrink and have been running it for close to a year. The cap I used is 24 (? cant remember) volt so how in the world could 5 volts harm it. The general rule is to use a cap with twice the rated voltage of what you will use. heatshrink would do no harm but the cap leads are plenty stiff. Malcolm drives it and his style is to bounce off of the corners, he says brakes are boring.

texan_idiot25 05-10-2008 11:15 PM

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Malcolm drives it and his style is to bounce off of the corners, he says brakes are boring.
That's my kind of kid. :lol:

BART 05-10-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by texan_idiot25 (Post 159497)
That's my kind of kid. :lol:

Poor kid never had a chance at a normal life. Me as a dad, his brother (WOW a book in the making) and his sister (female satan).

meme405 05-11-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ZX9RBART (Post 159498)
Poor kid never had a chance at a normal life. Me as a dad, his brother (WOW a book in the making) and his sister (female satan).

World of warcraft...god i never understood that game...LEROY JENKINS, thats the only part i love...

LOL thank you for putting this cap upgrade up, i kept telling people that teh one on the motor does near nothing...

texan_idiot25 05-11-2008 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by meme405 (Post 159515)
World of warcraft...god i never understood that game...LEROY JENKINS, thats the only part i love...

No body said anything about world of warcraft...nerd alert, meme went nerd!

2wdpancar 05-11-2008 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by texan_idiot25 (Post 159523)
No body said anything about world of warcraft...nerd alert, meme went nerd!

I think meme thought of World of Warcraft when BART said WOW, it's the abbreviation for World of Warcraft, or Wow.:p

Oh and bart, the cap you use is different, here's the one Mike refers to:
http://www.xmodded.co.uk/shop/index....&productId=755

meme405 05-11-2008 01:41 PM

Thank you BLT thats exactly what i meant. And actually i've never actaully played WOW, ive only watch the leroy jenkins video...

BART 05-11-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blt456 (Post 159524)

Oh and bart, the cap you use is different, here's the one Mike refers to:
http://www.xmodded.co.uk/shop/index....&productId=755

Yea mines alot bigger and when used in this application bigger is better. I cant believe you found someone selling my idea, guess I need to start marketing my crazy inventions.

dontspamme 05-11-2008 02:08 PM

Just got little questions, can I use the one from the gen 1 motors? Would that be harmful to my Xmods, or is it fine? And how do I know which one is + or - on the cap? Noob questions... I suck at electronics.

BART 05-11-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dontspamme (Post 159541)
Just got little questions, can I use the one from the gen 1 motors? Would that be harmful to my Xmods, or is it fine? And how do I know which one is + or - on the cap? Noob questions... I suck at electronics.

If your talking about the motor cap on the gen one it is too small and a waste of time.

texan_idiot25 05-11-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dontspamme (Post 159541)
Just got little questions, can I use the one from the gen 1 motors? Would that be harmful to my Xmods, or is it fine? And how do I know which one is + or - on the cap? Noob questions... I suck at electronics.

If I remember right, on most caps there is a white line on the cylinder part, on the neg side.


http://www.xmodded.co.uk/shop/index....&productId=755
This has been sold for a long time, since I can remember. I think performancexmods had it. XI has the fake on-motor "turbo", though after my whole deal he changed the description to what is theoretically correct, so... can't get at that much anymore.

theoriganalRiD3R1967 05-11-2008 03:51 PM

the negaive lead is the shorter lead on any electronic componant of which corect polarities should be known, if you accidently snipped them both to the same size, then look for the highlighted area on the cap, its usually lighter but sometimes darker than the rest of the capacitors "wrapping" and often right above the neg. lead

look at this pic
http://www.columbia.k12.mo.us/jjhs/T.../capacitor.jpg

EDIT: looks like texan beat me to it...o well atleast i got a pic right...lol

BART 05-11-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by texan_idiot25 (Post 159555)
If I remember right, on most caps there is a white line on the cylinder part, on the neg side.


http://www.xmodded.co.uk/shop/index....&productId=755
This has been sold for a long time, since I can remember. I think performancexmods had it. XI has the fake on-motor "turbo", though after my whole deal he changed the description to what is theoretically correct, so... can't get at that much anymore.

what was your whole deal?

texan_idiot25 05-11-2008 10:36 PM

Check the link that I posted in your other cap thread. It has the whole shi-bang

snowboi1289 05-11-2008 11:01 PM

I know this seems stupid,but can you or somebody show me a vide of the performance(not the speed,but how it works)??

Good upgrade though,whats the best cap to get(from Radio Shack)??

BART 05-12-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by snowboi1289 (Post 159624)
I know this seems stupid,but can you or somebody show me a vide of the performance(not the speed,but how it works)??

Good upgrade though,whats the best cap to get(from Radio Shack)??

Speed and acceleration are nearly impossible to capture on video(watch the making of f&f). I chose the biggest cap at RS that would easily fit under the body, it was like $1.99. Cant remember the specs and for some reason cant seem to find the car (it's a conspiracy and the kids must be behind it!)

darkendblades 05-12-2008 09:38 PM

hi i was wondering if you have done this to a gen1 before? if so can i get a pic?

BART 05-12-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darkendblades (Post 159716)
hi i was wondering if you have done this to a gen1 before? if so can i get a pic?

No but the theory and execution would be the same.


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