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TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-24-2009 01:41 PM

XXX: Building the ULTIMATE EVO.
 
Hey guys, Here's a quick explaination. My father got into Xmods with me for a brief moment and he stocked up alot of NIB upgrades and about 10 various Xmods, all in perfect condition and some with PN motors, liths and other various upgrades. He said he would give them all to me but he wanted one nice one in exchange. He likes to play with his Lith firebird in the livingroom....(He likes that one because he had the same REAL car with the same color when he was a teen in the late 60's.

Anyway, so In exchange im going to build him the ultimate EVO for him to play with. It will be FULL GPM (He wants purple w/ some silver highlights. I will make it AWD w/ bearings, PN Speedy07 motor w/ 2x2 FET stack. It will have purple stilletto w/ liths (heatshrinked w/ black or purple) also to top it off I will use an RV Project PCB to do the X-Z mod so he can use a prefex transmitter instead of the crappy Xmod remote.

One of my main adgendas will be to get rid of the ONLY non GPM part they don't make...The front servo/gear box. I have shot some emails to some cnc millers, and at the least I will have it painted..... I may go Flat black and add some decal or somthing to it to make it look hot. (May be hitting Bondo up for this)

The body will stay a stock 1967 Firebird (as my father likes the color) I will probably be changing some BK parts on it and will make a few decals.

I have purchased some GPM and have some bids in on ebay for others. I ordered the PCB. I have the prefex transmiter the chassis the body and the body kit on hand.

ALL in ALL, it WILL BE the ultimate Xmod EVO. ..... I will submit this for the next "Open Class COTM Comp" You should see some photos up within the next few days. .... STAY TUNED.

suicide_star 10-24-2009 03:51 PM

sounds like an awesome project, bro. if you're going to put that much time and money into it, why not hook it up with a Losi brushless system? i'm doing a very similar project (even with the same body) for my significant other, i hope you stay ahead of me so i can get some good ideas =)

Action B 10-24-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicide_star (Post 240850)
sounds like an awesome project, bro. if you're going to put that much time and money into it, why not hook it up with a Losi brushless system? i'm doing a very similar project (even with the same body) for my significant other, i hope you stay ahead of me so i can get some good ideas =)

Does she know how to drive well? I'm assuming its a she.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-24-2009 05:46 PM

I am gonna stay away from the brushless conversion for this project. I have already picked up a Losi Micro-DT brushless Xcelerion motor and ESC for a future project.... Brushless is definatly on my list though, I can't wait to see yours move along.

amorton94 10-24-2009 08:46 PM

Why does everyone think that all they can use is micro t brushless? You know they do make 120 and 130 brushless motors. Just get one of those and a 1/18 brushless esc and BAM! You have the fast xmod out there. But sounds like a great project.

Action B 10-24-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorton94 (Post 240895)
Why does everyone think that all they can use is micro t brushless? You know they do make 120 and 130 brushless motors. Just get one of those and a 1/18 brushless esc and BAM! You have the fast xmod out there. But sounds like a great project.

I'm more about controlled speed. A 70 turn motor and some nice AAAs on RCP is where its at.

suicide_star 10-24-2009 09:44 PM

haha, yeah...a SHE significant other. i just mentioned the losi micro bl system because it's a nice little package and it's relatively inexpensive. (not to mention the fact that i'm a losi fanatic)

deckerz 10-26-2009 02:40 PM

wow sounds like a sick deal.

can't wait too see her :D

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-26-2009 02:51 PM

Should be sick.... Just six I have to give it to daddy. Wish she was mine.

acerpower 10-26-2009 06:54 PM

a gpm aluminum z-mod sounds like a sweet project.
I run the speedy07 in my miniZs when I'm not racing.
I love a fast Xmod that you can actually control, can't wait to see it!

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-27-2009 12:27 AM

Well here is my first update. Currently Im waiting for the parts to arrive to start the build so in the mean time I have been addressing 2 issues I wanted to cover in this build.....1st is the car will be all purple soooo I feel like the blue liths will look ugly. That being said I wanted to shrink wrap them but can't really find the perfect shrink wrap that I want. 2nd is that I will be using a Mini-Z PCB so ... you can't mount it on a stilletto like the Xmod PCB gets mounted. So I have been constructing a PCB tray / battery cover. I have already talked to a guy about milling this part from billet aluminum, but in the mean time I am taking alot of car in building it from styrene so I can use this if the aluminum falls thru... I will fill in the gaps and sand it down and have it painted purple to make the chassis.... ANYway here are some initial photos.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260057.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260058.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260056.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260059.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260060.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA260061.jpg

lol 10-27-2009 12:51 AM

Pro case. Made it yourself? Kudos. :)

dontspamme 10-27-2009 12:59 AM

Holy ****, thats honestly amazing. The PCB carrying thing is amazing. It's just so clean. It hides the lithiums well, I thought they wearn't there and was going to suggest mounting the PCB near the bottom of the chassis for better handling. But I think you'll do fine the way you have it planned. It looks amazing.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-27-2009 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNKevin4EvA (Post 241123)
Pro case. Made it yourself? Kudos. :)

Yeah, with styrene.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontspamme (Post 241126)
Holy ****, thats honestly amazing. The PCB carrying thing is amazing. It's just so clean. It hides the lithiums well, I thought they wearn't there and was going to suggest mounting the PCB near the bottom of the chassis for better handling. But I think you'll do fine the way you have it planned. It looks amazing.

Thanks alot for the compliments. I am really hoping that the guy I am talking with can mill this part for me from billet aluminum for a decent price. If not this one I think will turn out ok.

acerpower 10-27-2009 12:39 PM

I think it look fine i styrene.
very clean, amazing work!
this is truly going to be the nicest Xmod I have ever seen.

Skv012a 10-27-2009 02:50 PM

Not ultimate without the ultimate radio coughtwopointfourcough :bigwink:

acerpower 10-27-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skv012a (Post 241152)
Not ultimate without the ultimate radio coughtwopointfourcough :bigwink:

I still think it's going to be "ultimate", now 2.4ghz would take this thing to a level beyond ultimate.
I think a 2x2 stacked AM miniZ board is sufficient in an xmod.
I'm still even running AM in my miniZs.............. although I wouldn't be if I could afford it.

..................anyway, this xmod is going to be the sweetest xmod I've ever seen.
I know the redline tires and rims fit the project and do look nice, another set of rims with the center groove filed down so you could use some Z tires might be a good idea just to run with.
With all that power from the lithiums and the speedy07, a set of sticky, radial Z tires would help transferring that power to the ground. maybe you could save the redlines for when it's sitting on the shelf.
It's going to be nice no matter what wheels it has, it's just a thought.

Donziikid 10-27-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXmodder(akaXXX) (Post 241122)
...I have already talked to a guy about milling this part from billet aluminum, but in the mean time I am taking alot of car in building it from styrene so I can use this if the aluminum falls thru... I will fill in the gaps and sand it down and have it painted purple to make the chassis....

While aluminum certainly is pretty, aren't you a little worried about the conductivity of the aluminum frying your board? Just the slightest touch at the wrong time and WHAM! there goes your board. Using styrene certainly takes a lot of the worry out of way. You also wouldn't have to make/buy standoffs, raising the board and ultimately creating less space within the shell. Plus, the box you've created out of styrene is pretty neat already and with a little personal touch (like paint?) it would really make it awesome!

Good thoughts and good work. Keep it coming! :D

Cheers,
Kyle.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-27-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donziikid (Post 241158)
While aluminum certainly is pretty, aren't you a little worried about the conductivity of the aluminum frying your board? Just the slightest touch at the wrong time and WHAM! there goes your board. Using styrene certainly takes a lot of the worry out of way. You also wouldn't have to make/buy standoffs, raising the board and ultimately creating less space within the shell. Plus, the box you've created out of styrene is pretty neat already and with a little personal touch (like paint?) it would really make it awesome!

Good thoughts and good work. Keep it coming! :D

Cheers,
Kyle.


Good catch. Definatly wouldn't want that. I am thinking to cover the inside of the pcb tray with .05 thin styrene. I am completely prepared to keep the styrene case if need be but am hoping to get it made from aluminum.... I'll just have to keep those concerns in mind.



Skyv.. Certainly 2.4ghz would be awsome, but as this is for my dad and it already has bookoo bucks going in it he will be fine with the 27mhz prefex remote which I have extras of to give him. But certainly your correct.

merc3des 10-27-2009 05:53 PM

Beautiful Casing, I tried an aluminum mount once on a crawler. Donzii hit it on the head, a screw was loose, board rotated, fried in a puff of smoke :(

Good luck, I like.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 10-28-2009 12:26 AM

A little bit of work done today...about 15 minutes worth. Wasn't into doing anything after work.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA270064.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA270062.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA270063.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA270065.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA270066.jpg

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 12:38 AM

Well got 2 packages today.

First was the Purple ebay Stilletto, Rims, flanged lock nuts.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA310182.jpg

Some pictures of what she should look like in the end with the body.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA310181.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA310180.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA310179.jpg

XXX

Second was the box of Xmod stuff my Father gave me to build this car for him. Lots o' goodies.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300072.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300073.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300076.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300078.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300077.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300075.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PA300074.jpg

bondo 11-01-2009 12:45 AM

nice score!
boo hiss about the cold heat though.......****ed bettery powered paperweights....

too bad there isn't someone in the hobby that annodizes aluminum.....hint hint.
it would be real nice to get the purple a bit darker.:bigwink:

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondo (Post 241413)
nice score!
boo hiss about the cold heat though.......****ed bettery powered paperweights....

too bad there isn't someone in the hobby that annodizes aluminum.....hint hint.
it would be real nice to get the purple a bit darker.:bigwink:

Yeah, the cold heat is junk. I told him to keep it, but I guess he wanted to get rid of it too. LOL. Crazy you mention the anodizing.... I have been online researching DIY anodizing at home. Seems pretty easy to set-up... there's alot of stuff on the net for setting up in the garage. Don't think Ill be messing with it on this project though.

BlueDragons 11-01-2009 03:53 AM

Your father had a lot of stuff! Nice!
Many things to start projects with! :D

I like those rims - i got the same about 2 weeks ago! ;)

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDragons (Post 241415)
Your father had a lot of stuff! Nice!
Many things to start projects with! :D

I like those rims - i got the same about 2 weeks ago! ;)

Yeah, I got them from ebay, I love this style. Did you get them there too?

BlueDragons 11-01-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleXmodder(akaXXX)
Yeah, I got them from ebay, I love this style. Did you get them there too?

yes indeed.
itīs the ultimate style for aftermarket musclecars-rims, i think!

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDragons (Post 241423)
yes indeed.
itīs the ultimate style for aftermarket musclecars-rims, i think!

Agreed..!!!.. Completely.

XMDrifter 11-01-2009 11:30 AM

holy crap, that's a lot of stuff. is that gen1 awd parts i see?

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XMDrifter (Post 241425)
holy crap, that's a lot of stuff. is that gen1 awd parts i see?

Yeah, but I believe it has the stock suspension in the pack because he already installed it on the Camero. I have to check again, but I believe that's the case. But it was pretty even seeing has that all the parts to build the "Ultimate Evo" cost about $300.00 ... I in actuallity, he just gave me this stuff cuz he's my Daddy..LOL, I told him I would build the car in exchange.

reaper 11-01-2009 04:00 PM

holy chit !!

now thats a box of parts :)
how many cars does he want building eh

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-01-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper (Post 241443)
holy chit !!

now thats a box of parts :)
how many cars does he want building eh

Im building him the "Ultimate Evo" which the thread is for. But like I said it wasn't a normal trade or anything, He was going to give me this stuff becuase he never really messes with it... I told him I would build him this Ultimate Evo..Firebird to play with.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-02-2009 08:20 PM

OH YEEEEEEEEEEAAH !!!!!!!!

Got some parts in today. I can't wait to get this guy built. Im still waiting on some stuff here is a list, I ordered it all but it just ain't arrived yet:
-GPM front gear case cover (Purple)
-GPM front knuckles (Silver)
-GPM rear axle stubs (Purple)
-Ball bearings set
-RV Projects PCB

But here's what came today:
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020002.jpg

Also, I have been working different ideas for the front servo/gear case. Here I tried the Dye approach with a scrap part. I dyed it with "RIT" fabric dye. There was a tutorial on it for RC parts on google.... I gave it a shot with purple... I am going to try it again with black and see how that turns out. I will also re-dye this one to darken it up and see how it turns out then.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020005.jpg

WRX Ryder 11-02-2009 08:38 PM

if somehow you do find a gpm part for the servo thing(in the pic above) i would sure love to buy one:) just hit me up

AJB32690 11-02-2009 08:58 PM

Those rims are awesome! The only thing that bugs me is the fact that the tires look a little too small...

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-03-2009 12:32 AM

Well, I did as much assembly as I could for now... You know the darn Shocks don't come with the screws to mount them, Ill have to find some for them.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020006.jpg
Messed with the cover a bit.... Not sure if Ill go with this narrower version or my original that covered the batteries.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020008.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020009.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020010.jpg

I started making this cover, not sure If ill use it, but Im messing around right now..... I started going this route because Im trying to find away to hide the motor and power wires, which are on the wrong side and will have to go all the way across the chassis... That is what the over hang on the rear end of the cover is for. The wires would route under it. Again...Im not sure Ill use it, because I think it looks better with the PCB visible....
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB020001.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...PB020002-1.jpg

dontspamme 11-03-2009 12:39 AM

It's a very clean setup, cleanest I've seen in awhile. It might look better visible, but keep in mind the dust, and junk that the tires sling up into the chassis might be conductive or something and easily touch the PCB and fry it. Then again, it's quite far fetched but function over form. Maybe paint/dye the peice purple or something to make it blend more.

Just ideas. A great build none-the-less.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-03-2009 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontspamme (Post 241549)
It's a very clean setup, cleanest I've seen in awhile. It might look better visible, but keep in mind the dust, and junk that the tires sling up into the chassis might be conductive or something and easily touch the PCB and fry it. Then again, it's quite far fetched but function over form. Maybe paint/dye the peice purple or something to make it blend more.

Just ideas. A great build none-the-less.

Well, It will definatly be painted when it is finished.... Im just not sure on exact design yet, Im kinda messing around and seeing what I come up with. Ideas are welcome.

TripleXmodder(akaXXX) 11-06-2009 01:04 AM

So, Ive still been messing around with ideas... Like I said before the servo case and blah blah. So here was somthing else I came up with..... I chopped the rearend of the servo case off and filled it in with putty and made this new servo case....for a micro servo. Still mocking it up and need to finish some putty and stuff, ........ what do you think of this, Im not sure ill use it or not, Bondo is painting a servo case black for me right now and I may just go with that for the Ultimate Evo...and save this for the Dragster or somthing else...
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050018.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050020.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050021.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050022.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050025.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050027.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...y/PB050028.jpg

bigez 11-06-2009 02:04 PM

hey this is looking great man you do very nice work
i think the sevro holder looks great but is it going to hold up

btw i have been pming you and you have not sent anything back what is up with that


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